Re: [ecasound] ecasound bug, bad chainsetup or stupid user?

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Subject: Re: [ecasound] ecasound bug, bad chainsetup or stupid user?
From: Eric Dantan Rzewnicki (eric_AT_zhevny.com)
Date: Thu Dec 11 2003 - 05:14:27 EET


5)
adjusted my .ecs to have only file inputs/outputs, no alsa, no jack. The
resulting files still have the nasty sound at the end.

-ERic Rz.

Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
>
> I'm going to focus on the first issue now. I'll come back to the second
> one tomorrow, if I have time, or perhaps the day after.
>
> My chain setup has 3 outputs -- live jack_alsa, mono_out.wav &
> stereo_out.wav.
>
> 1)
> I ran the previous version of guitar_mix.ecs that has no -ea:0
> -kos:1,0,175,0.0[1234],0 effects. This version does not have the
> ear splitting noise at the end. The output files also end normally.
>
> 2)
> tested guitar_mix.ecs w/ -ea:0 -kos:1,0,175,0.0[1234],0 on chains
> streaming from files and -ea:150 on the live chains.
>
> The loud sound at the end indeed occurred again as previously reported.
> It is also present in the output files mono_out.wav and stereo_out.wav
> starting at about 905s. (total length is 907s)
>
> 3)
> as you suggested I shut down jack and switched to alsa for i/o.
> (This may be a separate irrelevant issue, but I cannot do
> -o:alsa,ice1712. I do have ice1712 defined in my .asoundrc and jackd
> will use -d alsa -d ice1712)
> I modified guitar_mix.ecs to use alsa instead of jack:
>
> #-a:5,10,15 -i:jack_alsa
> -a:5,10,15 -f:16,1,44100 -i alsahw,0
>
> #-a:1,2,3,4,5 -f:16,2,44100 -o jack_alsa
> -a:1,2,3,4,5 -f:16,2,44100 -o alsahw,0,0
>
> Another possibly unrelated issue ... with the .ecs set for alsahw i/o I
> can't run it unless I use -c.
> box1:/mnt/ramfs/guitar_mix# ecasound
> -s:/home/eric/bin/guitar_mix/guitar_mix.ecs
> ...
> ecasound: ERROR: [ECA-CHAINSETUP] : "Enabling chainsetup: AUDIOIO-ALSA:
> Audio format not supported."
> ...
>
> With -c it works. The loud sound is still at the end using alsa, both in
> the monitor and the file outputs.
>
> It's getting late. If you want me to try with no soundcard i/o and only
> file i/o just say so and I'll do that test tomorrow.
>
> Anything else I can do to help debug this?
>
> Thanks,
> ERic Rz.
>
> Kai Vehmanen wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Eric Dantan Rzewnicki wrote:
> >
> > > I'm having some trouble with a chainsetup (guitar_mix.ecs -- see
> > > attached).
> > > Everything worked fine until I added amplify effects like this:
> > > -ea:0 -kos:1,0,175,0.01,0
> > [...]
> > > modulated by a slow sine wave. But, when the session gets to the end
> > > there is a second or two of very loud noise just before the processing
> > > finishes. The meters in envy24control go all the way up and stay there
> > [...]
> > [...]
> > > I run ecasound and jackd as root with jack started like so:
> > > jackd -R -v -d alsa -d ice1712 -r 44100 -p 256
> >
> > Try running without JACK, and use ALSA directly. If you get the same
> > error, try replacing ALSA with a file object (render to a wav-file). If
> > the nosie is still present in the file, then the problem is in the
> > Ecasound engine, otherwise in the JACK/ALSA/... (Ecasound) output plugins.
> >
> > > 2)
> > > I typed "start" and everything started playing. Then I wanted to jump to
> > > just before the end when the noise occurs, but accidentally went too far
> > > with "fw 2800" (the chainsettup is limited to 907s). My machine locked
> > > up -- no mouse, no keyboard, couldn't switch desktops, couldn't switch
> > > out of X -- for 1-2 minutes. I was then kicked out of X to a console
> >
> > Hmm, I guess the same test (with ALSA and with rendering to file) would
> > again help to pinpoint the problem cause.
> >
> > With JACK, a transport change will not only affect Ecasound, but all
> > transport aware components in the running JACK system.
> >
> > > I was able to repeat this lockup. The 2nd time things went as they did
> > > the first time. But, when I logged in after getting kicked out of X I
> > > was unable to get a gdb session going. They kept getting killed with Out
> > > of Memory messages. Eventually I had to reboot because my bash sessions
> > > and even my getty's and logins were getting killed with Out of Memory
> > > messages.
> >
> > Also, try running without root privileges (or the "-R" option to jackd).
> > You might need to increase jackd timeout to keep the JACK system running
> > with these settings, but this helps a lot with debugging (system wont
> > freeze totally if errors happen... unless there's a bug in kernel
> > drivers).


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